Thank you Mr. Zachary Gappa, you hit the nail on the head--driven to the hilt.
Secularism ignores the nature and purpose of the “First Amendment.” It is the state, which administers to the affairs of the commonwealth of the nation, and the churches administer to the affairs of ethical, moral and spiritual development for the maturity of its members.
Free speech is to be of an inspirational, encouraging nature, and must not interfere with the free agency of anyone, while it respects, guides and helps, us in taming and training, our behaviour appetites and passions in self-mastery.
Whether Secular or Religious, we must not ad insult to injury. Every act is an act of faith, whether secular or religious. Faith is not just a religious act; the secular movement practices it as well. The only difference is the object of ones faith, and to whom or what we believe to be the highest priority and purpose of our lives.
Truth is self-evident; it is a two-edged-sword for those whose beliefs are not self-evident. Today we can look back a hundred years to those who said, of what has been done today, could never be done. It was faith that led the inspired heart and mind to think outside the box, knowing there is more to life than what we see, feel or believe that does or does not exist.
You cannot prove God exists, or that He does not exist by material evidence, because God is spiritually discerned, just as the vision of every day discoveries cannot be denied, yet were seen before they ever materialized. That is the power of infinite faith. This goes far beyond the finite mind of fanatical Secularism or false Religiosity.
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The First Amendment
The “Second Amendment” has been on my mind, and Ooops, dee doo, thanks for your understanding of my mistakes too.
Where were you when the world was created and the sons of God shouted for joy?
(Old Testament | Job 38:4 - 7 )
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
How is it puny self-righteous men imagine in their heart and speculate out of existence the intelligence that creates earths and populates them, the God that looked into our hearts and said “I will make for these a dwelling place.”
It is impossible to measure something that is endless, or has no beginning. Further more it is self-evident, and obvious that man’s wisdom, of what is not out strips his knowledge of what is, because-- if is cannot be seen or measured, it cannot exist, or cannot be done. Insightfully put in the following poem.
It Can’t Be done (but the real title is “It Can Be Done.”
The man who misses all the fun
Is he who says, “It can’t be done.”
In solemn pride he stands aloof
And greets each venture with reproof.
Had he the power he’d efface
The history of the human race;
We’d have no radio or motor cars,
No streets lit by electric stars;
No telegraph nor telephone,
We’d linger in the age of stone.
The world would sleep if things were run
By men who say “It can’t be done.”
A fools wisdom does not extend beyond his ‘knows”, that lies only within what he personally sees, senses, hears, touches or smells. Yet he can imagine that he knows the depth, width, and breadth of the universe, of which he knows nothing of its beginning or its end, but in his puny speculations, “there is no intelligent design or designers, plan, purpose or objective of our existence“, because that is above their selfish plot to raise themselves above the God who creates us all, while fools say, “It’s all rubbish.”, because it refutes their carefully designed scheme to prove something they, know nothing of that in their mind they cannot fathom or understand, therefore it just could not or must not exist.
I have never seen God in a personal vision, but I have experienced and seen the works of His hand, that extend beyond my comprehension, and lift my aspirations to a high and nobler sphere.
I may not have seen God, but I have felt His inspiration, heard His whisper like rolling thunder within my heart and soul. I have been taught in dreams, and in lucid visions of science and the value of things I sought to understand. I say, that truly we get no more and no less than we expect, or reject. True faith is a scientific principle that builds a true principled conscience, while foolish denials of something we do not know does not mean, “It ain’t so.”
So I repeat:
“Truth is self-evident, it is a two-edged-sword for those whose beliefs are not self-evident. Today we can look back a hundred years to those who said, of what has been done today, could never be done. It was faith that led the inspired heart and mind to think outside the box, knowing there is more to life than what we see, feel or believe that does or does not exist.”
“You cannot prove God exists, or that He does not exist by material evidence, because God is spiritually discerned, just as the vision of every days discoveries cannot be denied, yet they were seen before they ever materialized. That is the power of the infinite faith. This goes far beyond the finite mind of fanatical Secularism or false Religiosity.”
How long dose it take to know? It takes fore ever, and ever--and by knowing we discover the truth, which is in the heart of God.
Separation of Responsibility
As mentioned in my first post, and on my Town Hall Blog. The separation of Church and state is a separation of duties to prevent a conflict of interest of Government or Church.
"Secularism ignores the nature and purpose of the “First Amendment.” The state administers to the affairs and commonwealth of the nation, when the churches administer to the affairs of ethical, moral and spiritual development for the maturity of its members. "
The fact is that too many persons, among the secular and religious practitioners force their beliefs on others, prohibited by the First amendment. I do not know everything, nor are all my opinions correct on everything, and my spelling proves that.
If we all knew the whole truth and supported that with all our heart, we would have no conflict. God's ways are not man's ways and war is not God's way. "He that liveth by the sword dieth by the sword." God's battle is to save souls. Only in extreme cases to use war, where God fights our battle is we are lead by his spirit, who seek to over come the evil, which prevails. Furthermore, good persons do not understand or follow God’s council and insist on using the devil’s tools, war, contention, etc. We may defend ourselves against a vicious attack, but we are not to provoke and initiate any such actions.
"Seek ye first the kingdom of Heaven and its righteousness, and all these things shall be add unto you." There is nothing beautiful in a self-righteous than a holier than thou attitude. Contend not with others, but pursue a steady course to serve the needy, the sick and the uninformed, which fight against their own ignorance making the same mistakes we all do. “When will we ever learn? When will we ever learn?”
“Prayer is the soul’s sincere desire, uttered or unexpressed.” In perfect love let us overcome fear, to serve and be patient with one another and not to offend or be offended because of Christ or the truth, so we may live peaceably, having good will to all humanity.
Prayer and faith in America
The First Amendment does not forbid prayer in the public square, it sanctions that freedom. Shall we forbid a virtuous act, because it is religious or shall we promote immoral actions because they are a religious belief. Religious piety is drawn from spiritual, virtuous principles of behaviour, which arise out of a pure, honest, sincere heart, having a clear conscience toward the God of truth.
"Prayer is the souls sincere desire, uttered or unexpressed."
Much like positive sincere affirmations we learn and put our faith in which alters our thoughts, feelings and desires that alter our habits and behaviour. And if unaware or malicious, this can be used in a negative vicious manner if we are so inclined, as we sometimes do to each other, claiming we are right while faith in their purpose is wrong. Are secularist totally wrong in everything? No they are not. Are the religions totally right in everything? Absolutely not, and the fact remains members within each denomination as do secularists, all differ, as to all other religions. This is the nature of man, and because of pride, and bigotry on both sides we keep ourselves from learning the true way of Christ, to, "Overcome evil with good."
One truth states this, "There is a lot of good in the worst of us, and a lot of bad in the best of us; so, it behooves the rest of us to judge any of us.”
From the speech Faith in America, "I Recall the early days of the First Continental Congress in Philadelphia, during the fall of 1774. With Boston occupied by British troops, there were rumors of imminent hostilities and fears of an impending war. In this time of peril, someone suggested that they pray. But there were objections. 'They were too divided in religious sentiments', what with Episcopalians and Quakers, Anabaptists and Congregationalists, Presbyterians and Catholics.
"Then Sam Adams rose, and said he would hear a prayer from anyone of piety and good character, as long as they were a patriot.
"And so together they prayed, and together they fought, and together, by the grace of God ... they founded this great nation.”
Faith In America
By Mitt Romney
Thursday, December 6, 2007
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MittRomney/2007/12/06/faith_in_america
Prayer and Faith in America
CKHustler wrote:
Sunday, April, 27, 2008 6:43 PM
turelie
reading it over im guessing spiceman :P
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A true lie is to intentionally deceive. How do you believe my sincere faith and belief is a true lie?
Is faith only a religious act, or is it a dogmatic belief in something that is false.
"Faith is the Substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
Heb. 11:1
Do we not all have something to hope for" Are we not seeking evidence of things which we have not seen? If this is so, then all mankind lives by faith in something, and thus idolitry is followed by faith in the unseen which is untrue.
True faith is to have faith and a vision of the unseen, which is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen," which are true.
Faith is not blind. It is the key to vision. and "Without vision the people perish."
http://e-spirituality.blogtownhall.com/2008/05/02/prayer_and_faith_in_america.thtml